Theories
So a lot of you have been throwing out ideas about what you think the story is behind all of this and I think it’s high time we had them all voiced in one place, so here it is.
Post your theories here and say why you think you’re right.
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I guess, maybe, it isnt Joe, then.
i went to haunteddredges.com and went to the dawson dredge link. in the article there are 5 white letters at random order throughout the writing. chronologically, they spell oldie . then the fair banks one has it but it says jol in the sumpter one, i found an i .so, oldie jol i
maybe it’s a message. who knows. but is it all just a coincidence?
Everything just un-spell checked. This is weird. And the ghost came to my house last night. there were noises on the doors like someone was trying to do something.
looked more at wikipedia article on joe bush, they say the ghost may also be Chris Rowe. the gears he was crushed by on dredge no.1 were transfered to no.3(the one of our concern in Sumpter). i thought it may have been more than one ghost.joe bush may not have even been his name, as i read further. either it really was rowe, or there is more to the story than we know.
i also found more. there have been articles, papers, even books written about old Joe Bush… but the weirdest thing i found on wiki was this:
Joe Bush is a skeleton man now a days
what does it mean? i looked on wiki, google, ask, even google images, but found nothing
does anyone know what happened to the guy that made this site?
patric carman i think decided 2 change the second book up a bit it just seems diffrent like creepy101 said its completely diffrent writing styles does that show that the 1st book could be actually useing Ryan’s journalk while the 2nd book is all patrick carman’s imagination? or the other way around…
Here is what I think is going on.
Ryan’s Dad and the rest of the Crossbones are part of a secret society that steal gold from the dredge company asset #42, and they keep their gold in a room underneath where Ryan and Sarah are currently trapped.
I think Henry, as the set owner helps them smuggle gold away from the dredge but Old Joe Bush was going to report the group, so he grabed as much gold as he could, shoved it in his pockets and was going to run for it when one of the member s figured out what he was doing and shoved him into the machin, thus killing him.
That is why Ryan’s father seemed so prejudice against Joe Bush when he was telling his son about him.
I also think Henry was helping them steal gold.
The company must have caught up with the criminals or something of them so they decied to stay low for a while, but then the company was demolished so the dredge no longer picked up gold, so the group was called off.
This all explains why Ryan’s father wants Sarah away from Ryan, not for safety but he is afraid he and Sarah will discover his criminal past and the authorites will hear about it and arrest him, he seems a bit TO eager to move if Ryan is making contact with Sarah.
I am sorry if my prediction is bproved wrong in the second book, I have just finished Book 1, about half an hour ago, and I intend to go to the library and get Book 2 tommorow.
It will take me 1-3 days to finish, then I will return and conclude, or revise my theroy to make it as accurate and likely as possible.
Thank You,
The Reaper
I dont know about yall, but these videos are too real. i have a copy of the book and uncovered something. ryans parents are always looking in on him, and he always has to cover his tracks. THE AUTHOR TOLD IT TOO REAL. ive had to do the same thing that ryan did, i almost even wiped a web site, LIKE SOMEONE ELSE DID TO THE PAGE!!! ive seen this same thing happen to other sites. i had them written down but i brought them to school and they were missing from my back pack, it had 73 paranormal sites, ALL OF WITCH ARE NOW MISSING, AS IF THEY NEVER EXISTED!!! coincidence, no.
someone is wiping ghosts.
OKAY I have another theory for you.
Maybe- since alchemists make gold- Joe was friends with the alchemist ’cause he loved gold so much. And when Ryan came to the dredge Joe got all hopeful and then when Joe went up to Ryan and saw that he wasn’t the alchemist, he hurt him cause Joe wanted the alchemist.
W-O-W
I never knew i could be so creative!!!
I think daryl bonner is joe bush because at the vid where sarah sees the dredge is closed off and the ranger finds her when the camera glitches and goes black and white you can see daryls face his eyes are an empty black and his mouth is long and black like a ghost so i think he is the ghost in disguise
Can’t sleep been up all night…. Need coffee….
the ghost of old joe bush is a real urban myth and can be taken for as a real ghost, the dredg is obviously real becaus who would take the time and money to build one, but i don’t think that the videos are real
At first I did not know what to think of all this, everything was hard to understand, some things still are, but now I know what I’m going to do, find, out.
The first video I watched of (Old) joe bush really scared me. i was scarded of a lot more things for around a week, bu tafter that I watched more, and didn’t think it was real, then watched more, and thiought, i knew it was. Now i know it is not.
I have been trying to find things out. i watch every video a number os times, and write a lot of what i hear, and see. I try to find out what the words, and codes mean, and more.
There is something, that i know mean omething big. Patrick Carman is the author of the Skeleton Creek Series, and he also wrote the fiveth book in the 39 clues series. in the book in one of the card packs there is a book that says my name is m. on the first page is the same thing that is on page 138 in skeleton creek the thing like morse code that workers used on the dredge. and get this. on the back of my name is m, there is some of the letters, is spells out remembereleine, remember eleine, ane when sarah went to the dredge in the afternoon, i wrote down what someone wrote on the dredge. one thing was “ran by eleine” something is the same here, a little of the same author, and more.
I feel that joe bush was a worker on the dredge, and he learned things like sarsh ryan, and more learned he wrote on the walls of the dredge about info he now knew, then he was pushed into the dredge because he knew to much.
i am really into this skeleton creek thing now, and when i found out that the dredge was going to be burned down, i yelled no.
I am not 100% sure about joe knowing to much, and being killed, but as my thought change i will write them down here.
My theory…..ryans dad worked on the dredge with joe bush(his “supposed” name). JB heard about the secret society, and asked one too many questions. The alcamist(ryans dad?) pushed JB to the gears n his leg got caught on the gears. He then comes back from the dead for eather A) the “gold” that the society has, B) revenge against the alcimist, or C) both. What do you guys think
Patrick Carman visited the dredge and talked to someone while he was there. They told him there was this legand about a ghost and gave him the name of someone with the initials RM who lived somewhere around the area. RM gave him a journal with notes from him and his girlfriend trying to get in the dredge at night and film something scary. He kept a journal and his girlfriend taped all the vids. Then the girl disapeared or died or something and RM went a little nuts. RM thinks the ghost is real, tells Patrick Carman the whole story, gives him a bunch of recorded stuff from his girlfriend, which totally gets her mad and she breaks up with him – or she’s already dead or gone like I said. RM asks for his stuff back but by then it’s too late. By then Patrick Carman is into it. Maybe he even believes there actually is a ghost and he spends the night up there and gets freaked out. He watches the videos from RM’s girlfriend, reads the journal, writes up an outline for a project thats a book and videos all mashed up together and sells it to scholastic for big bucks. Where’s the girlfriend? Where’s RM? Why haven’t we heard from them? Maybe they got paid enough to let it go or maybe their scared. They probably got out of that place if they got scared enough and didnt want to hang around anymore. I bet he wished he never gave up the tapes with the journal. Anyway, thats my theory! At least it is today.
my theory based on the image is that what if the ranger is actually old joe, just he is manifesting his ghost into a new form and this is it. and yes i know how crazy and farfetched that sounds.
good theorie but i remember our therie as they worked together and one day drwatts hit ojb on the head with a rock causing him to fall in the machine then we thoughthe might be getting the gold or trying to finish his studies who knows though and do u want to know something creepy maybe me and my friend lindsay are right in real life because right brfore we could finish the book it vanished if u want to as k anything pl write after me
My friend Alyssa and me have been thinking alot about this book we think of it as all real. We have same theories about this book Skeleton Creek but aslo Ghost in the Machine. We know that Joe Bush and Dr.Watts worked to gether to make a formala that turns gold into something else. Well we think old joe bush didnt want that that he just wanted the gold so Dr.Watts “accedtly” pushed old joe into the machine while they were talking one day (because Dr.Watts could have just said he feel in the machine while reparing it) and now old joe bush is killing everyone who gets in his way of finding whare Dr.Watts hid the gold. He killed Dr.Watts and now hes after Sarah and Ryan but thats not it Joe Bush was jelious because Dr..Watts was getting the credit for his work thats our theorie
-no one you neeed to know if you have any question.s just write it on hear
On one of the easter eggs on sarahfisher.com is a film about the “Revival of animals using artificial blood”. Does anyone know if this has anything at all to do with Joe Bush? Could it be possible Joe was “revived” using artificial blood? Or is this only something with no bearing on it at all. Any ideas people???
i found something.I do’nt want to post it.But i will.I think were getting close to the truth.to close.go to haunted dredges .com go to fair banks dredge.theres 3 bright letters.they spell out…Joe.as in Joe bush.im not making this up.go look for yourself!im shaking right now.
I put “joe will find you” into an anagram unscrambler and sure enough, “oldie joyful win” came up……..along with the other 1,515 anagrams
also, if anyone lives near Sumpter, could you go there and chck out the plants to see if they match the ones in the video? thanx…the website thinks there is a comment duplicate to this one up to the “thanx” kinda weird, dont you think?